Why not to use cheap eBay parts.

[vc commodore]

Being a person that loves his older cars, he has always had to deal with aftermarket, rather than OEM.

And like everything, there is good and there is shite in the aftermarket part sector.

So it's nothing really new.....It's more amplifying to do your research on what is shite and what's not....

 

[losh1971]

Older Commodores are one thing but when you get to Gen II where lots of sensors were introduced it's really luck of the draw. For some sensors there are no really decent ones made now. It was fine until Delphi went broke, now we're stuck with something Chinese, and it would seem the cheapest option in some cases is better than a more expensive option.

People **** stir me for buying VE parts that may or may not break. But I look at the Gen II gear now and if I had a crystal ball I could have made a lot of money buying certain Gen II parts that if found in NOS stock now would fetch 10x the original purchase price.

There will come a day and that day is not too far off when most parts for a VE will be obsolete. And when parts like switches fail it will be then people will wish they grabbed a spare of each while they could still be bought, if they want to have any type of reliability especially once they find out how junk the AM parts are.

 

[Fu Manchu]

What’s going to happen when modules fail and are longer available? A good well maintained car is tossed aside like it’s an old hair drier. How is that sustainable?

The only long term solution for older module heavy CANbus networked cars is aftermarket and custom wiring looms using more generic universal sensors. That’s expensive.

 

[losh1971]

What’s going to happen when modules fail and are longer available? A good well maintained car is tossed aside like it’s an old hair drier. How is that sustainable?

The only long term solution for older module heavy CANbus networked cars is aftermarket and custom wiring looms using more generic universal sensors. That’s expensive.

Yes, this will add another layer of complexity for us Gen IV owners. Hopefully there will be people able to diagnose properly and SH or rebuilt modules become available like they can now for Gen II's in the way of recon PCM's and BCM's.

Owners of Omega's will most likely send their cars to the wreckers, bit like anything with a five speed, they will be worth more in wrecking value than they would be if sold once that trans goes.

 

[losh1971]

I just remembered the issue with VZ modules, particularly the 6L throttle pedals that are failing now, with no options other than the dwindling supply of SH units that are now over $500, for something when new could have been bought for around $120.

 

[vc commodore]

What’s going to happen when modules fail and are longer available? A good well maintained car is tossed aside like it’s an old hair drier. How is that sustainable?

The only long term solution for older module heavy CANbus networked cars is aftermarket and custom wiring looms using more generic universal sensors. That’s expensive.

I honestly suspect, someone in the aftermarket sector will produce electronic units for these cars down the track to keep them running, rather than have them tossed into the garbage.

When it happens I don't know...Or even if we will still be around when it happens....But pretty sure it will happen

 

[vc commodore]

Older Commodores are one thing but when you get to Gen II where lots of sensors were introduced it's really luck of the draw. For some sensors there are no really decent ones made now. It was fine until Delphi went broke, now we're stuck with something Chinese, and it would seem the cheapest option in some cases is better than a more expensive option.

People **** stir me for buying VE parts that may or may not break. But I look at the Gen II gear now and if I had a crystal ball I could have made a lot of money buying certain Gen II parts that if found in NOS stock now would fetch 10x the original purchase price.

There will come a day and that day is not too far off when most parts for a VE will be obsolete. And when parts like switches fail it will be then people will wish they grabbed a spare of each while they could still be bought, if they want to have any type of reliability especially once they find out how junk the AM parts are.

It's not just older Commodores I dabble in.......Like everything, 99% of the time, someone comes along and produces parts that have become obselete to keep cars running, or even adapts other readily available parts to work along side existing bits....

When it happens is crystal ball stuff, but it does happen and I do suspect down the track, parts that fail now will become available in the future through the aftermarket sector...

 

[losh1971]

It's not just older Commodores I dabble in.......Like everything, 99% of the time, someone comes along and produces parts that have become obselete to keep cars running, or even adapts other readily available parts to work along side existing bits....

When it happens is crystal ball stuff, but it does happen and I do suspect down the track, parts that fail now will become available in the future through the aftermarket sector...

On the most part the issue won't so much be parts availability it will be quality. AM parts tend to be inferior when compared to OEM.

 

[Pollushon]

What even is OEM? I look at my cars and they're made of Bosch, Delphi, VDO, Continental, Elring, Victor Reinz, NGK, Mann, Febi, ACDelco.... dependant on the alignment of the planets. I guess OEM means not sh!t. Say no to no name

 

[vc commodore]

On the most part the issue won't so much be parts availability it will be quality. AM parts tend to be inferior when compared to OEM.

Been the same throughout history......So nothing really new with that statement